Curse

boxterduke · Jan 16, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Donot pvp much but from what I see and hear, Europe plays good.
They have good teams and good builds, everyone here in North American plays the normal builds that they were playing 9 years ago.
If Europe is good and winning then good for them, its time for North American PvPers to stop complaining and do something about it.

I'm sick of seeing all these hostile conversations in towns about how Europe sucks.

Note: to state a fact, I'm from north america.

Jecht Scye · Jan 16, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

It's not that America is worse than Europe, it's that there isn't nearly as many people playing HA in America typically. Every time I go to HA and make it to the 3v3 altar cap, it's always my team vs. two European teams. I've beaten my fair share of European teams but lets face it, typically you can only go so far in Halls before you run out of gas and fight a build that just has yours numbered. In conclusion, if there are more European teams than American teams then European teams have a higher probability of winning the Hall of Heroes

Blackhawk · Jan 16, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

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Originally Posted by Clone

I just want to put in the obligatory "PvP restrictions on PvE areas are lame." I could care less who has favor. I just know that it sometimes prevents people from playing some of the best designed areas in the game.

Couldnt agree more, they need to scrap it IMO as I think I can safely say that people in HA arent there solely for the benefit of the PvE community.

DragonFang · Jan 16, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by nekopowa

American players have a general bad attitude. One thing i dislike the most about them is when anything goes wrong they either quit, or yell and blame eachother. People switch from American -> Europe just because of that.

I don't believe this is American players in general but I do have to wonder if this behavior is related to an earlier poster's observation that more kids (under 18) play HoH (and probably PvP in general) in the US. The bevavior probably has more to do with the age group than the region. The times when America does win favor is generally late at night which is also after the 18 and under crowd has gone to bed. I don't want to imply that everyone 18 and under has a bad attitide but I do think it's more common in that age group.

I also agree that basing access to a PvE area on PvP results makes no sense. Even if many of the PvE players were willing I don't think telling them to go to HoH and try to win the hall would help change anything. Many PvE oriented players are just not interested in PvP and would not be very good at it even if they tried.

Franco Power · Jan 16, 2007, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by glountz

The fact that East/North european people tend to gather in Int District has nothing to do with the fact Europe has favor.
It has only to do with the fact that Nord countries and Eastern countries HAVE NOT THEIR OWN DISTRICTS. No Croatia District nor Swedish district exist, so they gather in Int District. French HA players gather in French HA district. Same for Italian, German, English ones.

That's what I thought: your logic is completely flawed.

To sustain your claim about "this country or this country has more skilled people" you must: note every holding team for Europe, then contact each guild to know from where their PvP players come from, and then you can begin to draw conclusion from some statistics.

For what I think, that's not that Europe is more skilled than America or whatever, but only Europe has more HA players. You see many teams in HA that are European. 3 Europe teams competing to hold halls is not so rare (even if it is uncommon).

dude quit it, I dont know if you know what you're talking about

Europe has players like Leteci,
america has players like Dryder

gg ? lol

Lumenil · Jan 16, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

From my point of view, americans are more into PVE, and europeans more into PVP. For example, trying to do DOA quests in european districts its extremely difficult, due to noobs, leavers, complainers, afkers, err7 ecc.. but I understand that in america there are fair better PUGs for DOA.

Morgoth the dark · Jan 16, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

dude quit it, I dont know if you know what you're talking about

Europe has players like Leteci,
america has players like Dryder

gg ? lol

omg someone salvaged my FoW armor - thiss line tell you all.

Well about year ago, someone said, EU players stop whining and sucking and win more.
now it's revervse way so... read line above and switch EU eith America :P

SlippyJack · Jan 16, 2007, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Keep this thread going, America had favor the whole night last night... Get some of the PvP'ers up and going again...

bebe · Jan 16, 2007, 05:26 PM // 17:26

They are more pvp orientated than us? :|

Xeeron · Jan 16, 2007, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by nekopowa

And those who say that Europe has more players because they have "30 countries", have you ever had geography at school? No?

Thx for posting that, I was starting to think noone around here knows the difference between #of countries and #of inhabitants.

Time zones: Europe and America are pretty equal in these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:T..._optimized.png if anything America has a larger spread.

- Xeeron

onerabbit · Jan 16, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by Omnidragon42

America has favor all night, every night. Play late and you're all set

this isnt true.

.i was up til 4am gmt and euro still had it all night

might just be a 1 off..

MrTickle · Jan 17, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by SlippyJack

Keep this thread going, America had favor the whole night last night... Get some of the PvP'ers up and going again...

I hope you took a screen shot to prove this allegation

SlippyJack · Jan 17, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56

I didn't, but if I did, there is no date or time to prove it

..

Actually in that case, America has not lost favor in two months

gojensen · Jan 18, 2007, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Just a quickie... Europe != EU... Europe > EU.

ischuros · Jan 18, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

In the map above it was pretty clear to see that the USA&Canada had more timezones, more urbanised areas where gamers usually live, more internet access than us (EU) comparitivly, i.e, you had a wider spread. There are only two timezones in the EU which really play games, GMT & CET, CET + 1 is mainly made up of rural/agriculture based countries, where there isnt an abundance of internet access, and where computers and games in general are hard to come by. In America over your four timezones, nearly everyone would have access to the internet, and to a computer, so there would be a greater chance of America dominating.

Yet they dont after IWAY got nerfed

Pwny Ride · Jan 18, 2007, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by MrTickle

Even Korea gets more favor than america

That must suck.

i know, i smiled to myself when i read that post

Infectious · Jan 18, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Ever considered that people on the American servers are just pissed off with the current rock paper scissors of HA at the moment?

Pwny Ride · Jan 18, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

If so, how come Europe is gaining favor now?

Because the lame iway build is dead..need i say more?

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Originally Posted by Infectious

Ever considered that people on the American servers are just pissed off with the current rock paper scissors of HA at the moment?

PvP is and always was Rock Paper Scissors. Think of it this way, A-build is rock, B-build is paper, and C-build is scissors.

There are that many gimicky, unoriginal cookie-cutter builds floating around in HA, that it is generally a game of rock paper scissors. Only when, for example, it's B-build VS B-build, Europe generally takes the cake, possibly because of one key factor that comes into play -

Attitude

I have met about thrity americans, on the EUROPEAN servers saying things like 'europe sucks', tossing about profound racial slurrs, putting other countries down, just to prove their vissaged dominance. Its people like this that give America a bad name, giving us European players a right to dislike american players.
So we fight, just to prove them wrong. We dont insult, we dont namecall, or indulge in petty arguments. Theres no' your mom is good in bed you n00zor0x0!!!!1' type remarks coming from European players.

Now dont get me wrong, im not saying that all americans are like this, i have a few american friends on my buddy list, but when this behaviour interferes directly with gameplay, whether it be ignorance, carelessness, and over-confidence, i will gaurentee you that its America's fault that they have favour the least of the time.

Good Day

Loki Seiguro · Jan 18, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18

from what i have seen

euro = pvp
amer = pve

and in pvp HA americans have random groups wtf is that lol.....euro may run some but they are usually r6-9+ group with nothing to do

Sophitia Leafblade · Jan 18, 2007, 12:24 PM // 12:24

come on America if u want favor come and get it off us Europeans

, im sure atleast some of you are more then capable, its about time HoH got a fresh burst of competativity.

*thinks back to the good old days of spending days waiting for Europe to get favor, when America and Korea held it for 85% of the time.* hmm on second thoughts maybe its better this way

(jk)